Please report bugs.
You can also share experience with me.
nema
interesting mod, but theres a couple issues from my point of view. first, the whole super-speed thing is a little ridiculous. second, I can't attack the towns where the guardians live, even though i start as hostile to them.
In 808 you can’t go to castle alone or just with heros. There are 50 guardians in zendar tavern. If you take 20 of them will be enough to open all castle. But it is batter to have very small battle ground, because you will fight in interiors. About speed. Well maybe I will reduce it some times. Or better I will prepare some other troops.TXT file to change speed of them.
Wow, this is strange.
Very, very strange.
Interesting? Yes.
But very, very strange. Somebody hold me...
have a ? i tryed to install wont work i extracted to C:\Program Files\Mount&Blade\Modules\guardiansparty0.4 and it shows it in the directory with the other mods. But when i launch mountandblade and look its not there ive attemped lots of times even re downloaded can u tell me if im doing it wrong or is there another way

plz help ?i had same problem with ottoman_mod. i really wanna try it out
Well, I believe, that you done your work as it needs. But I saw a same problem with other mods on some computers. As I saw, you can see that some mod is there, but when you try to open it, you get some other mod. I have such problem with fantasy mod for example. I removed other mods from modules directory to other location temporary,and then mod works properly. But I did not found such problem with native. There must be some kind of problem with mods inserting there on some computers.
Try, as described above and maybe it will help.
nema i figured it out for some reason when it was extracted in the file directory it had 2 folders one inside another i deleted the first then it showed up just like all the other mods
I hope. that now it work.
Well we cleanig up 0.5 version. There we found problems with encounters of the quests. It will be fixed very soon.
nema
what equipment do i need to give to Nema?
I believe that you will find her quipment somewhere in Abbey
Interesting, although, I must say, the pain noises are rather, interesting, is all I'll say...

You say that the equipment for nema is in the abbey, but is there more than one chest there? I have found one ontop of a tower, but nema doesn't say anything different when I talk to her, was the chest I found the wrong one, or is it a bug?
This is a mod with great potential, but is really in need of a readme to explain to the player WTF is going on and provide some pointers.
Very poorly balanced, as early in the game you can literally be facing dozens of enemies who are top of the range. The initial river pirate quest has morphed into one in which is so overwhealmingly powerful that you really shouldn't even bother trying
Far too easy to get one hit killed and this happens alot.
This mod is by far the prettiest that I've seen. Zendar is beautiful, with a river going through it and everything. Lots of work and love has clearly gone into the mod, but its all rather pointless if people are left frustrated by the continual character deaths, and by the fact that it is so hard to figure out what is to be done.
In depth readme and FAQ urgently required, but I'll keep wasting time trying to figure it out for myself as I've got a couple of weeks lying around to spare...
*** To expand on my last. I've decided not to bother after being given a quest to find someone in a building to the "South East". HTF one is expected to find anything to the south east, when there is no such thing on the map. Finally, after literally wandering all over the map, I located what I was supposed to find, in what I've always regarded as the "North West" of the map. (I'm an Aussie after all...). Not only this, but it was right on the other side, in a corner that most players won't have visited because there is absolutely nothing there in normal. Anyway, I was then given a rather futile quest to find someones equipment in a structure that teleports you all over the map again. After over half an hour of fruitless searching, I gave up as I could see a pattern emerging here. No real gameplay. Just dying and searching, dying and searching. Rinse and repeat. Frankly, if the bimbo on the lizard wants her crap back, she can get it herself...
Initially I gave this mod 7 out of ten. Now, I'd rate it at no more than a 4.
Well, take a horse and some lance and you will not be looser any more. It is all secret of this mod. Also help of your army will be nice. There are tips in MBX topic. Why don't you read them before you start to play this mod? I wrote address in readme file or now in credits&tips file. I don't know why you didn't find them?
Now that’s a really well adjusted response. Not...
The only looser around here is someone who obviously can't accept some constructive criticism. If you don't agree with what I've said, fine; but there is no reason to be such a tossbag. I stand by my comments and if you are happy with your mod in its current state, then I’m happy for you.
Given the number of excellent mods out there, coupled with the fact that I have a life, I see no reason to wade through an entire forum for information that should be included either within the mod (surely you can come up with directions to the abbey that make sense?), or an attached readme. Also, when I playtest I find it better to approach the game without knowing specifics, as how else is one supposed to detect errors, omissions, or glitches? Yeah, sure I could read the entire 14 pages of the forum, but how is that going to help me provide feedback by which you can improve your mod? Are you trying to develop a professional product here, or do you merely want to waste everyone’s time with froth, bubbles and tantrums? If it’s the former, I suggest you listen to feedback and stop being such a Precious Little Princess.
However, a quick look at the first page of the mbx forum shows that being needlessly rude to people is a hobby of yours. So I’ll ignore both you and your mod from now and encourage others to do the same, if for no other reason than the fact that most people hate having to deal with immature, cranky kiddies...
Sorry, but there no need to read all 14 pages. All the things are on first page.
Other interesting ideas suggested by you I didn’t put in the mod because I didn’t find enough time jet.
It is not that I didn’t accept your criticism, I just want help you. Anyway, thanks for your notes, but as I said I need some time to change things.
I agree with much of Wraithcat's criticism. Especially that the game isn't that well balanced yet.
I started out with no money and couldn't take any quests as i didn't have anyone in my party. I wandered around for two days hoping to join a battle and take some equipment to sell, and was killed 3 times. At one time 6 hell knights crushed me and 35 peasents not losing a single man. All in all it seems like a difficult start.
But a high difficulty level might turn out good later on in the game. At the moment, 'native' is almost too easy.
But this modification also has some very good features/innovations:
1: Very interesting story... original...
2: Good introduction/tutorial, with an intriguing practice range.
3: Nice graphics.
4: Fighting women screaming like... tennisplayers

very lightly dressed, even in the snow...
5: Innovative weapons.
6: A 'secret' town on the map (forgot it's name) that only appears within line of sight. I like it. More of that.
One of the most enjoyable mods out there at the moment, though far from being balanced, there is really quite alot to do, I love the caravan system even though it makes alot of stuff way too easy(Finding hidden places, completing raid quests, etc), the weapons etc are all way overpowered and even with the best armor I can find so far a shadow knight can kill me with one hit, not even mentioning 'Darkness' which you might survive if you get extremely lucky, but with all the recruitable characters and extra quests, chests with equipment to find all over, and a nice amount of roaming parties on the map, there is really plenty to have fun on.
Also, the comments of Wraithcat are completely out of context. The only one acting rude here is you, not nema. You are accusing him of not having a readme, and leaving players in the fray, while nothing is less true. I myself have not even read any readme or info on the game, apart from its features, and with the info obtained from the trainer in the Astral Portal where you begin, it's really not hard to get started, try asking merchants for the news, they will give you hints as to where to find chests, tavern keepers will give you alot of usefull information if you buy a drink, reading what the characters say, and doing so will get you far. I am only on day 2, level 13, got 4-5 companions including lady galadriel, a full army of Guardian Sisters and Brothers, about 8k in cash and the best armor ingame along with a few of the best weapons.
Wraithcat, I quote you here as this sentence describes you better than it describes Nema.
'the fact that most people hate having to deal with immature, cranky kiddies..'
You can call him a loser, but he does take the time to respond in a normal manner and then you accuse him of bashing you and being rude. You sir, are a moron.
LOL!!!
Dear god, do they breed stupid people at Guardians Party?
Are you so dim as to be unable to figure out that posts made in response to something usually occur afterwards?
Which part of me responding to Nema saying: "Well, take a horse and some lance and you will not be looser any more." could your infantile intellect not grasp?
If this is your idea of someone who takes "the time to respond in a normal manner", then I'd suggest you change therapists, try a higher dose of medication, or stop living in Baghdad.
I spent several hours playing the game and posted my thoughts. I then spent a while longer playing, before posting again after becoming increasingly frustrated with it. Nema's poor little ego got all dented and out of shape as a result. Hence my second post.
If you like it, great!! Like I said its pretty and has potential. Just quit shooting your mouth off, when you are so obviously clueless and haven't even bothered to read the posts in the order they were made.
Frankly, you don't even rate a "Sir".
You are just a moron.
Obviously making yourself look like an ass is an hobby of yours.
You're not worth any more of my time.
Khm, ???. I must confess, that my English is bad and I writing and reading with dictionaries all the time. Sometimes I don’t understand your letters.
I know that this is not excuse, but obviously I made terrible mistake in translations from my language. Obviously my try to say: “If you think that it is not enough just to follow your army and if you die every time when you fight in close combat with your opponents, solution is use of crouched lance.”
But my selection of words seems to be very offensive if I judge by Wraithcat response.
I don’t want to be offensive. Why should I. I saw that he take a lot of time to play this mod. And it is not all. He also takes the time and writes not so short notes.
As I said, I just want to give him fast help, how to outwit opponents.
I am very sad because some not well-chosen words bring such anger. I hope that I get a friend, but at the end I got an enemy. Isn’t it sad?

Wraithcat please take my apologies, I am thankful for your words and effort. I am not angry or whatever it looks for English native speakers. I am just very bad English writer.
Maybe my next words of gratitude must be written in my own language. Only then I will be sure that I didn’t write some silly words again.
"Well, take a horse and some lance and you will not be looser any more. It is all secret of this mod."
Wow nema I just looked over your response to wraithcat. Yea just to help a little in the future don't use looser or "loser" because thats an offensive word. Instead say " It would be easier to use a crouched lance when playing this game. Its one of the secrets of the mod.

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uhh, I have a bit of a problem when ever I try and run it it sayes somthing like: missing txt. dark blade. can any one help?
I see a big improvement from previous versions. Keep working on the storyline. Still, the troops speed is too high. Awesome graphics and definitely recommendable. Conglatulations.
I hope that problem with unused dark_blade1 texture message was fixed
nema ur mod is good very creative and very unique keep it up
how do i play the mod??
are you planning on moving this to ver .903?
And also i know that this is an old conversation but wraithcat,give the guy a damn break just because hes not good in english does not mean he is being very rude okay!He could have said everything in his native language,but did he NO!He made an effort to write everything in english,
SO THERE

It is for 903 now.

Thanx nema.
ummm...Just a question, what is you're first language?if u dont mind me asking.
I still dont get how to play the mod lol?
I read all pages but its CONFUSING just tell me one step to make it work

It looks like, that comments are not appear as they posted. Some of them are appear between old ones.
Any way.
Short instructions:
Guardian quest line:
Go to the astral portal. There you will find Tayyibah. If you will chose guardian path you will try to find 7 guardians sisters. Tayyibah will always tell you who are they. But where are the?
Your next step will be On and priestess. Use some doors in holy ground as shortest ways if you don’t like ride. But same doors are also in astral portal. In guardians towns you will find 3 sisters. For others you will check in taverns, or in prisons. One is in captivity, But one you can bring to your party just through dreams.
There are also others quests…but these represent main goal.
(I coming form the north east coast of Adriatic sea – from pocket country Slovenia – land of gnomes.(heh))
NOOOO... you still dont get what i mean.
I want to play the mod but it doesnt show up in M&B where i select the mod and i looked at the files that i downloaded and its really...really confusing like I said
im only 13 so im not smart like you..
so....you speak something like spanish right?
because im Spanish

Hey, nerevar, this is wat i do when downloading mods.
1:Before downloading save in ur C:\Documents and Settings\Desktop\Mount&Blade or C:\Program Files\Mount&Blade
2:Download
3:Extract in modules folder,this should bring up a folder.
4:Now start M&B and choose Guardians... mod.
This works for almost all mods so i think this will work.
P.S.:I'm 12 turning 13 in Jan

OMG, thank you so much finaly...i got the answers that i wanted and it wasnt from nema thanks again mitch
No problem bro

I am so sorry nerevar but I didn’t understand where is your problem. But I hope that you save your problem. It is same with most mods. Well some of them use self extracted .exe files, but I always have problems with them, so I don’t use them.
If you will find my country on the map (Slovenia), you will see that in such small country can leave just little gnomes.
Hallo to Spain and enjoy in mod.
And mitch, thanks for help.
No problem for helping out.

I was playing Guardians...today for first time and it would be a great mod its just...unpolished like lots of bugs and that thought of thing.Hopefully in new version u will correct these.
And also i have no idea WTF u were saying,this is not because of ur english but because i just didnt no wat the hell u were going on about.
NO OFFENCE.

It is more like joke. But I will be very, very happy if you will tell me where you find bugs. I will fix it. I don’t have much time to find them. Version 2.0. is still in testing phase. I also repaired some bugs in On arena trainer's dialogs. But there is a lot of thing which must be check. So if you will help me as testing players I will help you if you want.
Hi nema.
right im kinda busy doing....stuff(PRESENTS YAY) right now,but if u want me too i wil try and make
a list of bugs.
P.S must i PM u or post it here
For bug report it will be the best for me if you follow guardians party child board link and put them there.
If not, you can also put them right here.
Do you know wat i noticed? this mod has the most comments out of everything lol

@Nerevar
Heh,probably coz of people like you & I.

lol true...so true we make BIG @$$ conversations

This thread is pretty F!@#$% up if u look at it.

wow this has the longest comments section
@Mithril
WTF.U r a bit slow there scroll a bit up.

IF ONLY MOUNT&BLADE WAS AN ONLINE GAME!!!
THAT WOULD BE FREAKIN AWESOME
Hey nema i have an internet problem so i cant realy do a bug list,sory.Maybe when it is up and running again.Oh and nerevar,yeah it would be frikken sweeeeeeet,but there would be too many problems methinks....
Ah,it is O.K.. What you already gave me is nice work. But if you will have some time....

Guys, will you check for me glass sword (Fenada)and magick books from Abbeys underwather basement?
are the male elves made to hav female faces with long ears?
Yes they are. But maybe they will get their own faces some day, if I will find enough time.
Sorry, I didn't check posts here some time.
hum , I'm not so interressed to play an androgyne heroe or a female heroe , I will pass this one.

You can take a human male for your character in this case.
If I can't play a male I will give a try then

, I tought it was an -only for girls- mod made by a -femine mouvement lunatic- , my mistake

. Well I do play time to time a girl but from the trailer , I have watch , its look like you can have only elve female to choice , that make me frustate as the mod looks cool.
Well, you can choose between more or less editable humans, desert elfs, elfs, goblins and orcs, both of them, male and female.
Where did you find trailer? I'd like to see it.
the elfs armors and others items, books, are a erroneous material, the texture in game is lost. I edit the material with the brf editor, changing the shiny shade. first i try with the iron shade, but the texture seems not good, after i try with the tex_mul_color_alpha and ok. The mod is good, but slow on the start and the changes of screens and starts of battles, but may be because my pc is old. Thank you
i have a problem every time i try to move the mod folder to modules im my mount and blade the winrar or zip thing says the system cannot find the file specified and copies nothing

i really really want to play this mod any suggestions?maybe alternative download links
I had problems with uploading file to repository. I will download file and check what it is wrong.
is it with the kingdoms of Rohan and Gondor ?
waht you tri to say us , is like the Lord of The ring this mod

coooooooooooool like mi favorite movie...
I hope that this one will work. Former one was corrupted somehow. I can picked file by file from zip file in my windows commander, but if I used unzip I got just empty folder. Strange.
It is dream world and there is no Lord of the rings. Sorry. But you can find some strange races as elfs, goblins, humans, orcs in there.
every one and i mean
everyone says "are u to be a folower of the dark side"
it soooo anoing!
and i get erors when i go in to a shop the direct way
can u try to fix it nema? because i realy like this game

I think that you have to many shadow knights or darkness troops in your party. You can have only 5 of them, so, 5 shadow knights and 5 darkness tropps. Others you can leave in your castle.
What kind of error did you find in the shop?
excellent work nema. i have been playing this game since the low 7's and this is one of the best mods i've seen. Started to find the others too easy, but starting here is tough. those army of darkness guys (333 darkness) OUCH!!!!
i tried this mod. is stupid. i fight with dark hunters and the kingdom of darkness became mi enemy

(
this is stupid

and i have very more to reclaim
But you are in war with dark kingdom form very first begining of mod. Any way, about reclaims, you are welcome to put them here or at child board of Guardians Party. You will find link at the begining.

Didnt find any bugs....

Lucky you
Great mod guardians this party, everything is well done. The armor fits perfectly with the game, the horses cool, super powerful weapons and with great character forms and super cool but like everything is perfect breakdown, what I've noticed is that when you create your character for example if you play with (golbin male) something like that, (the Elf male) and (the defectors Elf male) nose that appears to spends pure feminine

thought that was invested in feminine and masculine but not. The orc and humans if they are fine.
Another detail many of the options for changing the face do nothing works for the pure naris and mouth, I have not tested on humans yet, but with the other if something else when I come to party I do not see the image of my character or of the units that I have in the inventory and does not look like the image of the character in the tournament almost everything is perfect, for it only downside is that the hull seven as a party in half and all seven wrestlers with no hair, including character of one.
To finish the soldiers killed when these sele puts them away from White's face as if he had problems with the texture of the face has and there is a sword that also happens after the same thing I say the name started to play today why Només I hope that the name Meden response of these failures but as I liked this mod secolucionan believe that if these failures can be one of the best mod I alla seen without offending anyone


similar forgot to tell you that there is a problem on the map where these Search of a village heard the sound of money collected from the sound that sounds when the Lord sends you to collect the money in one of their villages that sound and if these Search of two villages doubles

I like to put the file that are in Spanish language as the place for the game to acknowledge what the Spanish is my native language writing in English through a translator'm from Venezuela

I am afraid that since few simply portings it is a time to make mod again in new module system. I don't know when I will find a time.
Translations are welcome.
I have subboard and all that things can be dicused there.
I dont know if it works in 1.003. But why you don't use 1.011. If you have 1.003 just take upgrade for M&B 1.003. But because there is not much differents between 1.003 and 1.011 it can work also there. But with more bugs in engine.
Awesome mod, very different, but awesome
A few issues though such as the high battle speed, the weapon damage being a wee bit too high and the Darkness war parties on the map are too fast but besides that, an excellent and innovative mod with a brilliantly involving storyline.
With a bit of polishing this could well be in a good position for one of THE best mods out there.
Excellent work

Awesome mod, a bit different, but awesome
A few issues though such as the pace of everything, mainly battles and map speed seem to be a bit too fast and the weapons are a wee bit overpowered, and there are a few other things here and there but besides that this is a brilliant, innovative and imaginative piece of work.
With a bit of polishing this could be in a good spot to become one of THE best mods out there
Good job.
Not bad, but I would say the faces need alot of work I have seen your other orcs though much better.
wats guardians party like? <(-_-)>
I don't know why but when I attack a castle or town I click on besiege it says I win the battle and takes me back to the map plz help
Eh, sorry

but this mod was simply ported so many times that only help is rebuild all from the begining. Originaly it was for 8.0.8. from year 2007.
I must confess that I don't have a time to do such. Since I helping a little on Daydream mod I am so unsetisfied with look of this mod that I treat this mod just as history and warehouse of models and code solutions.
I am afraid that this last port is not full playable. There is a link of previos wersion of this mod in subforum linked on this page.
Sorry again for this bugs. So what is playable, is playable, and what is not, well, I am afraid that it will stay such.
comment last edited by nema on Jan 07, 2010, 11:36:37 pm